![]() ![]() I said yes, and he would forward the application to the relevant person. He explained the initial fee of £3000 and an annual fee of £2200 (Correct me if I'm this is from memory) he asked if this would be of interest. Then the nice gentleman goes on to talk about centurion and the benefits it could offer me if this would be something of interested. I believe I got what you would call an informal invite? I had someone from Centurion (UK) call me Wednesday Evening making sure I was getting the most out of platinum etc. I did cancel my card after figuring out how to max a few of temporary benefits in 2020.Nope - you pretty much detailed it 100% So the question would be, and why the topic is interesting, am I missing benefits? Does someone else find hidden value? If it's just for boasting, they are targeting a different person than me and it's a mismatch. And there are often considerably cheaper corporate rates than the rates required for the hotel program benefits. You can get similar results from Virtuoso agents or the partner programs for Park Hyatt, Four Seasons, etc. The hotel program benefits have always been marginal in my experience. For me that was the straw that broke the camel's back (together with their no-common-sense denial of honor my request to credit the Nexus fee in lieu of the Global Entry benefit as Nexus includes Global Entry.) And then they doubled the annual fee from $2500 to $5000. They took away $200 airline fee credit from Centurion but not Platinum. ![]() They put Gogo inflight on the business Platinum but not the Centurion. Amex added 5x points on airfare purchases to the Platinum card but not the Centurion. airlines largely eliminated domestic Priority Pass lounge access with the creation of PP Select, and Amex went one step further with eliminating the restaurant benefit. US and CO are gone and I have lifetime status on UA and AS now, and DL Platinum is really Platinum light and at best a mid-tier status. Sometimes it was Amex's decision, sometimes external actors. Over time the benefits were whittled away, again and again. I can't say that I could totally figure out whether the value was worth it, but the odd times that I strayed to another airline either because of IRROPs or they were most convenient, it was good to have access to better seating and usually priority lanes, and to generally always have someplace to credit flights with partnerships, and to have partner lounge access across alliances. Priority Pass didn't come with any limitations, it got you into lots of lounges in USA and included restaurants with PP started adding them. It had superior benefits to the Platinum card in every way. It got you top tier status at SPG and Hilton. It got you top tier status on Delta, USAir and Continental. When I got it there was no initiation fee, and the annual fee was $2000. ![]() I have had the Centurion card in the past. Isn't the main point of Flyertalk forums how to hack money and travel? How to get above averages returns, treatment, and experiences? Cost-benefit analysis and personal experiences are relevant. I'm not suggesting financial disclosures to exceed $100k would be required for every cardmember, and allow for the possibility that Amex may have different policies and practices which are cardmember dependent and applied at their sole discretion. ![]() As mentioned above, there were years when we'd have to make those 99,900 multiple payments before the due date (still prefer the true net 30), and it wasn't until we agreed to allow more of our assets to become known to them before those limitations were lifted. Buffet, given the assets known to them (not to mention single largest shareholder) whatever that mythical highest NPSL territory would be, he'd likely have it. I suspect yours was a question the rep couldn't address, and may have reflexively recalled the experiences of many bus plat caredmembers with the $100K imposed NPSL. Thanks for the infoWhile this is purely speculation on my part, I suspect Amex's NPSL is a combination rolling 12 month (or, was it 6) average charges and assets known to them. I really want to know if the Amex rep lied to me or not. ![]()
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